Further, the programs are run by a for-profit company, called Envision EMI. I have known students in the past who have participated and loved it. Both workshops were mainly presented by Curtis Ferguson II, Associate Director from USC Admissions. I have been very interested in pursuing a career in medicine for the last couple years. She was able to experience college life. I dont think its about feeling special at all. I was so excited and proud of her but the cost seems outrageous. Unfortunately, there isnt a clear answer. Our son has grown up hearing their stories, at least the ones they are permitted to tell, and hes always been interested. This is not a scam, but this program is no more recognized than other organized summer-camp program. . By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. From time to time we would receive nomination forms soliciting names and contact information. The YLS provides a high-quality, national-level interactive training experience and peer-to-peer learning opportunity focused on life, leadership and learning-to-learn skills for 9th-12th grade high school students who are currently participating . We were terribly disappointed in the staff, content of material taught, supervision, quality of kids and quality of teachers. My parents seemed really thrilled about it, but my concern is how expensive it is. I got nominated for the NYLF: National security and I was wondering if it scam? I would be participating in this program as a junior in high school. Hi! NYLF is owned by Envision EMI, a for-profit company that creates and runs numerous other youth leadership programs such as Lead America, the Congressional Youth Leadership Council, and the National Young Scholars Program. I dont want my mom to fork out so much money to take me to a program I might not even like. The letter makes it seem as if NYLF is the only way your child can receive this type of recognition and enrichment. So this isnt your only chance. Did you guys hear from them about that? Ask if they sponsor any youth programs, or if there are any volunteer opportunities for high school students. Thank you for the help. This program was definitely NOT worth the price and in fact we found the materials describing the forum bordering on false advertising. Im also worried about spending all of this money only to change my mind about what I want to do later. Its a lot of money for a weeks experience, a bit over $2000, but in the end, we bit the bullet. The restless sun shined brightly down onto the equally restless morning coming up. It was at San Francisco State, week-long, $2000 for the class, and over $1000 for a hotel (didnt want him in the dorms for a week). They do ask for personal info on the application about income and stuff tho. Really hesitant about the whole thing. You can start listening at 22:20 to hear me and my co-host, Gretchen Wegner, discuss the NYLF programs and the benefits and drawbacks. I can see that the questions asked by some of the other parents to comment here are exactly the same ones my husband and I asked ourselves when our son, a high school sophomore, got an invitation for the NYLF Security seminar. The programs offered through the NYLF are legit and do help high schoolers prepare for several specific career fields. But then I did some research online and figured out its really just a glorified marketing campaign. So that leaves $300. The National Youth Leadership Forum markets itself as a program exclusively for top students. Your email address will not be published. Heres a website with lots of California engineering camps to get you started: http://www.engineeringedu.com/store/index.php?route=information/information&information_id=19 As a teacher who nominates students every year I can say we do not get any compensation or kickback from the program. Can you start to volunteer at a local hospital? Take your time and only consider a program if you think it is right for you. Megan. As the parent of two kids (12 & 17), I would NOT recommend sending your third grader on this experience. Megan. I keep reading about the marketing scam and the cost. But since it is too expensive, it is not. They didnt realize there are hundreds of other programs, many less expensive, that they could have considered. Their tech was team building a robot. Not really. @PinkScholar12. They talk about programs like Crime Scene Investigation, programming a robot and something medical related. The days are long for them but she never complained because she loved it so much! What does the national student leadership conference entail? 125 dollars feels more like a discount than a real scholarship. Hell be attending in March 2016. Of course, you know your son best. I cant sign up for something that starts out on the wrong foot like this. For more than 30 years, Envision has worked to help students discover their passions, explore careers, and make a difference in their communities. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); College Prep Results, LLC: A Megan Dorsey Company. The entire experience was a huge disappointment for us, and my son tells me that was the prevailing sentiment among most of the kids he spoke with. This is very helpful. Hi Everyone, This is not a scam, but this program is no more recognized than other organized summer-camp program. Medicine is something I am very interested in doing and this seems like such an amazing opportunity to learn. Megan. I was just wondering about how a college would look at me being involved in a program such as this and how they would perceive my application on whether they like it or not? What did your son think about the program now that he attended? I think that it would be a great experience for anyone who got nominated and is thinking about going. Any one have thoughts? The NYLF programs are not bad, but they are financially out of reach for many. Hey. I got one for medicine, but I want to be an ICU nurse, not a doctor. My daughter who is only 8 years old is a HUGE dreaming of being in the fields of science. See if any of the colleges or universities in your area are offering summer programs for kids. Perhaps this isnt really an appropriate question, but I must ask: Are there special incentives for local high schools for promoting this to students? Yes, it is not as special as they make it seem. as a useful website for easy access and guidance to scholarships. I am actually questioning if it is legitimate as he did not apply or sign up. There were 5 guest speakers ranging from professors at Berkeley to executives at big companies, such as google. Do you think it is worth the investment for an 11 yr old to go to a program like this? Our goal at Envision by WorldStrides is to help students grow as people by developing independence, leadership, problem-solving skills, worldliness, and maturity. Hes only 9 years old and in the fourth grade. I was wondering if I should try to attend or if it's even worth my time. Ive had students attend and enjoy these programs. She said Id arrive in Chicago and a bus will be waiting with other students but I havent gotten an official ticket yet. Hi! ACT? Mark, All the juniors were taught basic elements of financial aid. Heres the other thing- I received the letter in the mail yesterday afternoon informing us of the nomination and the scholarship deadline is tomorrow! I know they both offer scholarship opportunities for academic proficiency. My granddaughter attended NYLF:STEM in Fort Lauderdale, Florida last year. First, National Youth Leadership Forum (NYLF) programs are legitimate. My son has also received this opportunity. Then you can sit your parents down and talk to them as the young adult you are, and they will know that youve genuinely thought about what it is you want to do. A list of children attending, what an invasion of privacy. The NYLF programs are legitimate and Ive had many students attend and enjoy them. Is there any worth of going? But the programs are legitimate and good. However, you dont mention some of the other key problems with NYLF, so I wanted to note them here. The last 3 days will be you most enjoyable days, because of the trips and the party. I have an 8 year old and I would want to know a lot more about how they structure the program before I would send him. Did you take the SAT? YLI is a free, college empowerment program for high achieving Latino high school juniors, held virtually and at two top universities across the US. She asked what it was and said I dont even like science. I ONLY WISH THERE WAS A PROGRAM LIKE THIS THEN THAT WOULD HAVE MADE THEIR COLLEGE ACCEPTANCE EAISIER. Im a sophomore and I got one of these in the mail yesterday and Ive been reading about the program online. Shannon. She was 9 years old and in the 3rd grade. Still, the BBB rating doesnt seem to reflect the user comments on the site (https://www.bbb.org/washington-dc-eastern-pa/business-reviews/lecture-and-seminar-bureaus/envision-emi-in-washington-dc-7001305/reviews-and-complaints). Does this seem extremely young to be attending something like this? Theyll probably give out flight tickets closer to the date. 6 people in my school (elementary, middle, and high school) got nominated, so I think that it is pretty exclusive. YOUTH CONSORTIUM. But there are other options for you as well. Megan. I am a junior and just got this invite for the National Youth Leadership Forum: Engineering & Technology and am wondering how many people get them! Conference Registration will open early May. I just dont want families to feel like it is the only option. Could you please email me at Nelliem81@aol.com. After a quick break, Ferguson introduced a new guest Natalia Zampini, a personal banker at Wells Fargo to take all the juniors in the room through the financial aid process of college. Kids dont need to do things to look good. But I do think summer experiences can be valuable in developing skills, building confidence, and exploring topics not covered in school. You probably knew that from my article and the responses to comments here. Scam mate everyone gets it your school sells your info. I think we will stick with that. Im assuming its for the flight information. It says its partners with College Board, Wells Fargo, Jack Kent Cookie Foundation, American Indian College Fund, etc. Ella, Ella, We stayed on a campus at Berkeley. She is not a genius and doesnt have any periodic tables memorized as some here have said. Also, they have a youtube page with videos as well and if you check their website, they are a nonprofit. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Each of the six programs lasts a week or more. Megan. Im sorry to hear you had a bad experience. My entire budget for her summer camps is $800 and I already spent $300.on a city camp that will provide the childcare she needs so I can work. I attended it in middle school. If so, could you give some suggestions of other programs you feel are worth investigating? Being nominated by a teacher is a legitimate and significant honor for a student. The letter mentioned different tracks. This student is in self-contained special education classes. Ive tried googling them and nothing comes up and their website is blocked by my school. AS A SINGLE MOM ,I DID EVERYTHING I COULD ,WITHOUT ANY FINANCIAL HELP ,TO SECURE THEIR COLLEGE EDUCATION I applied this year, but I havent really found much information about the program. We went to Stanford. r/ApplyingToCollege is the premier forum for college admissions questions, advice, and discussions, from college essays and scholarships to SAT/ACT test prep, career guidance, and more. Often kids get greater value out of hands on activities than out of lectures with big-name experts. Mana, I cant believe Im actually asking a question. Bad costumer service! Its a lot of money and some of the people who have gone said they feel they didnt receive their moneys worth (its only a week long but you pay $2000~$5000). Press J to jump to the feed. I know that my son has been interested in the security and intelligence field for pretty much his whole life, and I know that he now has the mental maturity to ask pertinent questions, and to network not only with his peers, but with the adults at the seminar. Hank, I recently received an email from YLC asking to apply for a free 5-day college-prepping summit for HS students at USC. I remember a girl in my group who couldnt spell nurse. Really?? Once I got notice I was unsure, though she was dying to go. Both my kids built a much more sophisticated robot in a local camp at 25% of the cost. We also built a replica zipline. I think we will pass. In order to calculate an accurate estimate to how much money a certain student needs for college, there is a basic equation, which is COA (Cost of Attendance) EFC (Expected Family Contribution)= Financial Need (the number you need to pay for college). What do you think? We want all schools to aspire to, achieve, and remain committed to a biblically-based philosophy of education, standards that are measurable, and flourishing-related criteria. I hope you get back soon. I am really interested in attending the 2016 summer program, however, it is too expensive! The biggest obstacle [of going to college] would be being a minority. You should listen (starts at 22:20 minutes in.) But the camp itself is not special so this cheapens the nomination process and exposes it for what it is: a marketing ploy to separate parents from their money. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Just this week we answered a listener questions about these camps. I just received an invitation to the NYLF medical program. Please if your kids have the experience, please share. The other ones have already been decided against, and now my family is trying to determine if we should put any value in this one. February 22The Stolen Heir A new Elfhame experience, February 16Animation studios should follow in Arcanes footsteps, February 16Mysterious and Spooky Wednesday Addams. not to me, anyway However, there are no admission criteria for NYLF. That certainly qualifies as a scam to me. All students must be registered in order to participate. Although he talks to my advisor, who is trying to help me pick a career and knows about my thoughts on the subject, it still seems kind of odd. Im a freshmen hoping to go in to medicine and got sent a letter all about it do you think as a freshmen it is beneficial for me or should I wait a year or 2? So do some research and compare options before deciding which one is right for you. (starts at about 22:20 minutes) Listen on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-college-prep-podcast/id909682404?mt=2) to episode 27 or listen here: http://collegepreppodcast.com/2015/01/increasing-act-scores-learning-disabilities-math-best-summer-camps/ We will find less expensive, age appropriate activities for him in our area. I got nominated, but I am unsure how they got my name, I havent done any testings listed above, nor do I know how they discovered my want for law school, Megan, Youth Leadership Programs | National Student Leadership Conference Reach your leadership potential, explore your career options & live life on a college campus with our exclusive youth leadership programs. Thanks for the warning! Yes. The Youth Leadership Consortium and the National Hispanic Scholarship Fund (HSF) invited several hundred students to Loyola Marymount, a private university in Los Angeles, to attend College Prep Saturday on Nov. 23. My son just got invited for stem but I dont see ft lauderdale . or listen here: http://collegepreppodcast.com/2015/01/increasing-act-scores-learning-disabilities-math-best-summer-camps/ I have yet to hear any positive feedback on the STEM program. Not offered now. Anthony, Anthony, Id love to hear your feedback now that your daughter has attended. But Ive never heard of the National Youth Leadership programs providing incentives to schools / educators for nominating students or promoting programs. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the NYLF National Security. Also she said that usually if I do not receive anything then I was supposed to call them anyway. Megan. I have been reading on the programs to see other peoples views on it and if it s really worth breaking the bank. If your parents watched you play doctor as a little girl, and listened to you talk about how great it would be to help people by going into medicine, then when this invitation came in the mail, I imagine they decided to make it happen, no matter what they had to do to pull it off. This would be my daughters first time away for that long and not being with family. Written by Megan Dorsey on September 17, 2012. Best of luck to your and your stepdaughter as you worth through these options. By soliciting teacher nominations, the camp makes well-meaning parents feel special when their children are nominated. It seems legit tbh because its soonsored by a lot of credible organizations- one being Uchicago. Michael, thanks!! Youth Leadership Consortium; Career Connection Days; College Camp. I loved it, but all the things they said they would do Why? What this means is that colleges analyze what classes a certain high school has to offer and compare those classes to the ones the applicant took, in order to determine whether or not the applicant has a good enough work ethic and strive for challenge to go to their college. Im in 4th grade and I just got a letter from the NYLF . Im a junior and I got a letter in the mail today for the NYLF Law & CSI program, and I havent necessarily seen any bad experiences regarding it. Im an applicant for YLS this summer and I had a few questions I was wondering you could help me out with your experience? No it doesnt. The trouble is, Im 31 years old! We would like to show you a description here but the site won't allow us. Last summer my then 7th grader did one week at Girl Scout camp (under $400) and a week-long mission trip in Texas with our church (free). My finances are not exactly capable to cover the $2000 tuition but several family members donated enough to make our first payment. Its about helping your child decide if this is what they want to do & to just have the experience & memory. Those principles include: Turn values, beliefs, and emotions into action Show generosity and honesty to others Demonstrate personal commitment Empower others Work together Maintain civility Think critically about societal issues You will have a lot of opportunities to attend programs like this in high school, so dont worry that this will be your only opportunity. Ive read all your responses and theyve been EXTREMELY helpful. She mentioned the sponsors of this event, which included Wells Fargo bank, the American Indian College Fund, the College Board and APIA Scholars to name a few. Legos. DO WHAT YOU CAN NOW TO GIVE THEM THE EDGE THEY NEED FOR A REWARDING FUTURE. Just further proof that they purchase mailing lists and send these exclusive offers to anyone on a college-bound track. Hi Megan, Congratulations! Hi! @Seventeencarat The multitude of other parents that got letters from his school also indicate teacher nominations that did not occur. (And do it within your budget!) Hi Shannon, not worth it The day ended with a raffle and an advertisement for the Youth Leadership Consortiums annual Youth Leadership Summit (YLS), a free program for low-income high school juniors in which the students go to the University of Chicago on a four-day retreat to learn about college. Thank you for sharing! Do think its worth $2000 for me to go to this program in the summer of 2016? For advanced medicine, there is college credit from george mason university can that credit be transferred to another college? However, we live far enough away that he would have to do the residential program. Of course we were super excited to get her letter. I just talk to too many families each year who were dazzled by the important sounding name. Transportation varies by program, so please check on the details for your specific session. I stayed with her in a hotel in Fort Lauderdale just minutes from the campus. I got chosen for the program as well and had to do some research. If he does attend now will he be grouped together with other kids his age or will he be attending with all different ages? It says a faculty member at my school nominated me, but Im not so sure Ive spoken to him once, so how would he know that I am planning on going into the military? Im just very overwhelmed and confused about the opportunity. Id encourage you to google summer engineering programs for high school students. You can specify California or San Francisco and see what you find. It sounded so awesome before I realized that they sent a letter to everyone whose name they could find. Megan. @Seventeencarat Hey! Thank you so much. This includes community service, extracurriculars and clubs. I also do not understand how people are nominated.. However, these programs are indeed expensive. The Envision experience provided her with key information and practical advice related to her goals in the field of . My 5th Grade son received the invitation in the mail a couple of weeks ago. Their final presentation was a scripted, mock murder trial in which they convicted two defendants (actually got a confession) on ridiculously ambiguous evidence. I am guessing this invite is just marketing and tons of people get them but I just want to be 100% positive just in case there for some reason is some specialty in receiving the letter(: Thank you so much! I think its great that youre reviewing this programs, so thank you for writing this review. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Not only that, but the Security and Intelligence field is a mighty big umbrella, covering everything from cyber security to data analyzing to being the guy that ensures all the old classified documents get appropriately disposed of. Colleges and summer programs can get a list of all students with above average math scores or top scores overall. I agree. Just dont think it is as selective as the marketing material makes it sound. I would love to go into Engineering and participate in an Engineering Program at my school and do advertising for it so was I possibly nominated for that reason? Megan. Yeah, that's pretty close to what I had figured. Cecilia, ]]]>, enrichment experiences, National Youth Leadership Forum, summer programs, summer programs for high school students, I am a sophomore in High School and considering the National Youth Leadership Forum. My guess is they got your name somewhere in the admissions process. This spring tens of thousands of high school students will receive news that they have been nominated to attend a "highly selective" or "exclusive" one-week summer program. How much can it cost and how did they get my name? This will be our first year. There were NO COMPUTERS, at a science and technology forum. I have a feeling that our school is in a position to attempt to get as much money as they can get their hands on. You decide if it is the right program for you after comparing it to other opportunities. Some people regarded it as a scam but others claimed that it was a genuine program. or listen here: http://collegepreppodcast.com/2015/01/increasing-act-scores-learning-disabilities-math-best-summer-camps/ Unfortunately, the pandemic made this mission very difficult. Hi I got a letter from NYLF for ENGINEERING and TECHNOLOGY i t seems good but I want to know the total cost for the whole thing. that seemed a little strange like if you were invited then there would be space for you already reserved?? My parents dont mind, but I told them they shouldnt waste it (because of the situation we are in). Some people regarded it as a scam but others claimed that it was a genuine program. I am assuming at least half of my grade got one but just want to be sure. But, I think my father would be a little hesitant, so I was wondering if you could suggest some other medical summer programs that might be last about a month or longer and would be at UCLA or Ivy Leagues? Still not sure though if this would be a good trip for me. I got nominated to go to nylf and my mom thought that it would be an amazing experience for me to go. Its a bought-and-paid for program that doesnt give you a big gain on the admissions thing. 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